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Post by prostreetcamaro on Sept 14, 2007 22:14:34 GMT -5
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Post by nybuckstalker on Sept 15, 2007 3:55:42 GMT -5
What a joke that article was! Seriously, how did that guy get on a DNR committee? I deal with enough crazy people and I would say, that Home Slice isn’t right in the head!
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Post by davep on Sept 15, 2007 4:14:06 GMT -5
Glendenning appointed him.
'nuff said!
And what scares me is that a lot of folks that were in DNR under Glendenning,are now reappearing in O'Malley's administration!
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Post by deerehunter on Sept 15, 2007 7:45:30 GMT -5
The link wouldn`t work but I did a bow hunting search on the Baltimore Sun and got it .Glad my kids won`t go to AA Comm Coll. Read some of the responses, I think most people are supportive of hunting . This guy has always been trouble.
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Post by reed on Sept 15, 2007 10:39:53 GMT -5
How can I join Maryland Bowhunters Society. If they lobby in Annapolis against this idiot I want to give them my money.
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Post by Hardcorehunter on Sept 16, 2007 8:27:18 GMT -5
He is another hunting activist who happens to write articles to voice his insane, political agenda. Here was my comment:
Mr. Lamp,
You are obviously a animal activist. PETA member or Humane Society I would imagine. You don't take into account that if bowhunting was not implemnted the deer population would double within one year. Deer would then starve to death during the winter months as the enviorment could not support the population increase. A slow, tradgic, painful death indeed. Starvation will take weeks and is the most inhumane way to die. Also countless human lives would be lost due to increased automobile accidents. Bowhunters are the best form of animal population control and the largest form of animal and habitat conservation.
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Post by mdbowhuntr on Sept 16, 2007 10:59:46 GMT -5
I just read the article, and after I stopped throwing up I had time to reflect on this individual. A). He's obviously an IDIOT! B). I know six year olds who could write better articles (even if it was on the same subject. C). He's an IDIOT!! I was almost embarassed for him after I read that. To think someone would publicly prove themselves a complete moron, and D). He's still a complete and unadulterated IDIOT!!!
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Post by nontypical on Sept 18, 2007 8:56:29 GMT -5
You know all it takes is this one loser to yell loud enough and it could bring down the bow season.The uninformed masses are easily swayed by someone with passion.Granted his passion is unfounded in this topic but he could cause us alot of trouble.
Is there a way to vote him out?Is he an appointed official?If so there must e a place I can send a strongly worded letter to.I don't want someone who is against hunting,deciding on my hunting rules and regulations.
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Post by THE DEER HUNTER on Sept 18, 2007 9:25:22 GMT -5
Looks like only the first reply supported this bozo. ;D
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Post by BIG FOX on Sept 18, 2007 13:08:54 GMT -5
here is my email to him......
Mr. Lamp,
I read your article on bow hunting in MD. I feel you are greatly misinformed. Bow hunting is a wonderful sport and a great joy to my family, friends, and fellow hunters. By hunting deer, the hunters are helping keep the deer population in check in this area. If you were to out law hunting, those deer that were not killed during the hunting season would be left to run into our roads and neighborhoods, to be hit by cars and hurt and kill PEOPLE. While I am not trying to say that deer do not get wounded and suffer during hunting season, this happens far more from deer being hit by cars only to be killed in the road ways or left to suffer on the side of the roads. All the development of housing forces the deer to find new areas to live and by increasing the hunting season it helps to avoid some of the deer overpopulation. Also, I donate several deer a year to feed the homeless and needy in our area. This is a viable source of protein that many of these people would never have the chance to receive if not for hunting. I understand your concern and it is every hunters responsibility to practice to make sure they can shoot properly and make clean ethical kills. For all those against hunting deer you must understand the consequences of trying to ban hunting. Deer will be left to starve to death for lack of food, will be greatly over populated in a shrinking habitat and also be left to run into the road ways to be killed and wounded by cars and injure and kill people. For someone that has never hunted it is easy for you to say take away someone else's freedom to do so. Instead of focusing on the injured deer that does happen during the season why don't you focus on the good hunting season does for all. More money into the economy, lower deer numbers to be hit by cars injuring and killing people, and the efforts of hunters to feed the homeless and needy with valuable protein. I just don't understand when articles like your's come out you only focus on the negative and never mention any of the positives..
V\R
Andy Fox
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Post by deerehunter on Sept 18, 2007 14:50:52 GMT -5
Well done.......... Big Fox
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Post by BIG FOX on Sept 19, 2007 5:23:41 GMT -5
Below you will find his reply and my email back to him.... glad to see he at least took the time to email me back and I hope you all take the time to drop him a line as well...
Mr. Lamp,
I was given your article from a friend and fellow bow hunter. I do see your points and yes I know not everyone out there is not a perfect shot and/or ethical hunter. It is sad but true. I would hope those that choose to hunt would take time to practice and become extremely familiar with with their equipment, but that does not always happen. My biggest point behind your article and many like it is it seems to focus only on the bad or worst case senarios and you fail to mention the good that comes out of bow hunting and all hunting. I am not saying that wounded animals is not something that happens, but hopfully one day that can be avoided if at all possible. I to run into peope that tell me of poor shot choices and it always bothers me. i immediately ask them why they woudl choose to take an unclear shot and the answer is usually the same. "I thought I could get it." it does bother me, but I assure you that the hunters I associate with and consider hunters and friends do our part to make sure we take every animal as humane and ethically as possible. Thank you for taking the time to respond, I do appreciate it...
P.S. I am a life member to the NRA and donate annually.
V/R
Andy Fox
Joe Lamp <j19lamp@comcast.net> wrote:
Dear Mr. Fox,
Thanks so much for your time and your reply to my Op-Ed piece. I had absolutely no idea it would get this type of response. If I may ask, how did you find out about it?
While I am confident that you are an excellent bow hunter, sir, I assure you that many others are not. No one I associate with would ever want an animal to suffer. When they see some of the same animals, day in and day out, with the broken legs and the puss coming out of their sides from known hits by arrows, then it's time to tell this side of the story.
As the non-hunter on the commission, I'm the one who gets the calls about the wounded deer with arrows in them running outside someone's house or in a field - and much more. This is not a rare event, I assure you. And I'm now getting word from even more bow hunters and others, coming forth, willing to tell me the "other side" of this. It is not pretty.
I'm getting lots of concerns about deer vehicle accidents and I completely agree. We need to work to fix that problem too. However, it has very little to do with bow hunting deer. Killing deer with a bow and arrow will not keep the rest of them from crossing the highway. I need you and your fellow hunters to stand with me and the 97% of the non-hunters too, to get the legislatures to pony up the bucks to pay for whatever we need to keep the deer from crossing. Nothing is perfect but there are things that can be done and are not being done. Why? They cost money. I've tried to get the hunters behind this. Good luck. Not a chance. They love to say that they pay most of the freight for wildlife management, whine about it, but they are really very, very happy with the situation. They are in control, they know it, and that's that.
As for the starving argument, it's odd that we so rarely see that. I won't say it can't happen. But I hear it all the time and never once do I get more than hypothetica for evidence. Very strange.
While we obviously disagree on some of our positions here, I sure do appreciate you taking the time to email me. And may I ask a favor? Would you consider becoming a member of the NRA like I am, or consider re-upping your membership if you already are one? While they are misguided on the sport hunting issues as I see it, they are strong supporters of the 2nd Amendment and we can use all the help we can get there, don't you think? Thanks so much and take good care, Joe Lamp
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Post by mudduck on Sept 19, 2007 7:52:35 GMT -5
WOW!! what stupid %$^@&* article. I really liked the part where Lamp mentions that arrows are sticking out of deer's heads, lol. Big Fox I commend you on emailing that A-HOLE, but I doubt he is too pigheaded to accept and be swayed by any other opinion than his own. Furthermore, for a good laugh read some of the comments following the article.
Good luck bow hunting everyone!!
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Post by brandon on Sept 20, 2007 9:34:49 GMT -5
ive never seen or heard of an arrow "sticking out of a deer". im sure it happens, but I doubt it happens as much as that guy makes it sound. Someone should point out how much the technology in bows has evolved so much in the past few years. with these crazy broadheads, and bows the shoot over 300 fps, along with other changes that should help some. I was just reading a forum article about how guys are shootin through shoulder blades now...
Its just a deer anyways... why do they act like its a person or something?
But.. F 'em! Like he said.. hunters "are in control, they know it, and that's that"
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Post by nontypical on Sept 20, 2007 10:10:53 GMT -5
I am all for the push towards more ethical and effecient hunters.I know I always think about the suffering an animal may incurr if I hurry a shot.That goes through my mind before I release the string.That quick thought has kept me from shooting at a couple deer now.I would never let that arrow fly if I had a hunch I may miss or hit at a bad angle/spot.
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