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Post by Hardcorehunter on Nov 13, 2007 19:49:51 GMT -5
Can you sue a state? I'm not sure how that works. They are messing up my afternoon deer hunts! Let me explain. Virginia is a "right to smoke state" This means at smoking is allowed in many more public places compared to Maryland. I work out in VA four days a week and my job requiries me to go into grocery stores. In the backrooms of the stores its like walking into a cloud of smoke. It isn't unusual to have seven or eight emloyees smoking as they are working. I'm a former smoker myself, quit four years ago. I have no choice but to be in the backroom to do my job. I leave the stores smelling like I have been in a bar for hours. My clothes and beard reek of smoke! Then I go into the woods smelling like an ashtray. I'm not necisarily blaming the cigarettes on me not shooting a wallhanger. But heck I gotta have something to blame! I'm sick of being forced to smell like smoke and breathe second hand smoke. I want to sue Virginia first, then the county of King George, then the stores. Think I have any chance of getting a couple million dollars?
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Post by davep on Nov 13, 2007 20:13:23 GMT -5
One of the nicest deer I've ever seen was taken by an old guy named Reds that I used to hunt with in Dorchester in the late 70s.
Swore he had a cig in one hand and his **** in the other! (taking a leak)! LOL
Maybe worth a try???
My Dad has been smoking almost 70 years.Swears deer LOVE El Producto blunts.
Of course, he also used to tell me his snoring attracted 'em.
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Post by BuckMaster on Nov 13, 2007 20:44:08 GMT -5
I know for a fact that The DEER HUNTER shot a nice buck one morning while smoking a cigar. He said he just stuck it in his pocket real quick so he could shoot...it was still lit!
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Post by THE DEER HUNTER on Nov 13, 2007 21:14:14 GMT -5
That story made me think about that...Man did that thing burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by osprey on Nov 14, 2007 7:57:55 GMT -5
Think I have any chance of getting a couple million dollars? Sure, just like every chance in the woods there is a CHANCE of shooting the twin to the Crutchfield buck. ;D I'd be soaking down with scent spray, using scentlock clothes, etc in your situation. Course there have been plenty of deer killed by guys who stunk and just hunted the wind. Daniel Boone was hovering over a campfire most days, didn't have scent sprays and killed plenty of deer! I'm pretty fanatical about scent while bowhunting, but while gun hunting I relax. A lot. Even carry a thermos of coffee with me in the stand some days rifle hunting! |
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Post by nybuckstalker on Nov 14, 2007 9:17:01 GMT -5
I agree with Osprey, scent control while bowhunting vs. gun hunting are two different stories. Wind direction has everything to do with scent detection.
I use my dog's nose to hunt men and rely on the wind. I have observed hundreds of area searches in woods and have seen the way dogs can pinpoint the source of a man 20ft in a tree. They don't pinpoint at 100 or 50 yds, they come right in and look up, i.e., bow range. Human odor travels in the shape of a cone. The man is the top of the cone and the wide base is the total area where scent will be contained. Strong steady winds make long skinny cones, where low unsteady winds make larger, fatter cones. As long as you know where your cone is and make sure it wont cross the path of the deer, you can chew, smoke, fart, whatever, and still score.
I think this explains one reason why a lot of people have success while ignoring proper scent control.
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Post by reed on Nov 14, 2007 12:43:35 GMT -5
I shot my first deer while chewing. I saw it coming in and spit it on the ground before I picked up my gun.
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Post by busco on Nov 14, 2007 13:32:15 GMT -5
Have heard of many people bowhinting and smoking in the woods and being successful. I used to chew in the stand and had does come to the base of my tree and smell the ground..
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Post by branson on Nov 14, 2007 16:03:46 GMT -5
nybuckstalker,
Good way of thinking about how scent travels. I'll have to keep it in mind. My uncle used to smoke cigarettes like crazy in the woods and always came out with deer. I don't even think he cared all that much about wind direction, but he had to in order to have been so successful. Right?
Anyways, could you wipe down with something before you head into the woods? They have scent-free wipes and whatnot now. And maybe a full change of clothes (boxers too) if you're that anal about scent?
-- B
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Post by Hardcorehunter on Nov 14, 2007 20:27:38 GMT -5
Well with america being so anti smoking I figured I can change VA's laws. Marlboro (phillip morris) is based out of Richmond which I'm sure has a lot to do with Va's lax smoking policies. I do like how you can buy beer at every grocery store and gas station in VA but back to my point, "forcing " someone to be exposed to such conditions in order to work pisses me off. If eberyone in the store was snorting asbestos and it was lying around everywhere, couldn't I sue for having to fufill my job while being exposed. Same thing. I feel like I want a cigarette right now, see what its doing to me!
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Post by 05wrangler on Nov 17, 2007 16:50:20 GMT -5
cigarettes, tobacco juice, etc etc are not human scents to the deer. Its the *human* scent that spooks them.
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Post by orff77 on Dec 2, 2007 19:24:46 GMT -5
I had a spike walk in 20 yards down wind of me while smoking last year and he never even spooked.
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Post by bucksathome on Dec 28, 2007 18:35:20 GMT -5
You know the smoking definetly does not help while hunting . I chew while i hunt and say it does or does,nt effect my hunt but obviously less scent better the chance.
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